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Diggerthedog
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nomis wrote:For what it's worth, i'm gonna give my opinions on what I think about our current squad and manager !

Wayne Burnett reminds me a lot like Glen Roeder !!!

Good coach but crap manager
Remember these comments are just my own personnel opinion

Roeder couldn't manage but he gave it his best shot and is now back coaching and thats where he should be
I feel the same applies to Wayne

His man management skills are non existant
He obviously has his favourites as well because from what I see every week Conner's is shite week in week out yet is obviously in front of Nathan Green in Burnett's eyes

I have only seen Green play a full 90 mins once at Portsmouth Away and from what I saw he should be wearing the left back shirt every game

Wayne's game tactics are awful to say the least

Wagamama should of been playing from the start yesterday
He caused the Orient defence a handful and why he was substituted on tuesday I will never know

My biggest gripe about our manager was last season at home to Pompey when we were getting totally outplayed for the first 20 mins
Wayne done the correct thing and brought on an extra midfielder to stop Portsmouth from playing yet takes off our top goalscorer Luke Norris and keeps Chris Dickson on the pitch !!!

Week in week out he continues to say we need to improve as a team but sorry Wayne you need to improve as a manager
If things ain't working you change it
Just ask any decent manager
He is so stubborn and doesn't take to criticism kindly hence he won't change his system

Why o why do he insist on playing one up front all the time
The one occasion we go two up front in a league match this season was at the start of yesterday's second half and we score 2 goals in 15mins
Then takes off a striker when leading 2-1 to go one up front and put all the pressure back on again

I'm lost as to what his thoughts and tactics are
Why are we so shit at home ?
Ask Wayne

He ******** don't know but everyone in the ground would be more willing to be less critical if he take some criticism and not move the benches because he don't like hearing what's being said

The current squad we have is more than capable of achieving a play off place if they are directed in the right path and managed correctly
Unfortunately until there's a change at the top that ain't gonna happen guys

Who would I replace him with ?
Due to our board and their money restraints then it has to be one of the coaching staff already here but i'd be as bold to say i'd like to see Kenny Brown at the helm

These are just my ramblings off course but there many fans not happy with Wayne and i'm hearing rumours about supporters boycotting a home game in the near future

What will this achieve ?
Personnaly i don't think it will gain anything but I can understand people's frustrations

Another player who should of been playing from the start yesterday was Billy Bingham
What the hell he has done to upset Wayne is another thing !
MOTM on Tuesday night yet not good enough to start against Stanley

These opinions of mine are echoed by lot's of fellow supporters I attend with and we can't all be wrong or can we !
Surely if we were wrong and Wayne was right we wouldn't be looking at the bottom half of the table for results every game and would be concentrating on the top half

COYD....
Take your west ham glasses off mate Kenny Brown should be no where near managing our team.
NickMurphy
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nomis wrote:
Another player who should of been playing from the start yesterday was Billy Bingham
What the hell he has done to upset Wayne is another thing !
Wanted the club to tear up his contract to join Luton from what I've read on here and elsewhere.

Which you know, given our patience and his injury, I'm not best pleased about myself.
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leewilson
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Adrian wrote:
leewilson wrote:
Burnett got 31 points away from home last season. 8 wins and 7 draws. Only 2 points more than you state but every little counts. Also worth pointing out that with 6 away games left in 2012/13, we only had 16 points away from home. When Burnett came in, with the same team that had been struggling, he managed to achieve half of that tally in just 6 games to take us to 24 for that season.

Although Still's record in 08/09 and 09/10 is quite similar, let's bare in mind the quality of player and squad we had then as well. We think of them as our glory days where Benson was firing, we had superb wide men, sturdy defenders etc. The likes of Gain in the midfield. Yet Still couldn't conjure up more than an average away record. The year we got promoted, we were bloody awful away. I remember going to Darlo fearing we'd muck that up because we'd only won 4 away games all year up to that point.

Last season, we had a very transitional squad where we were inbetween Still's remains and Wayne building his team and we managed to top all previous football league away points tallies gained by us.

You can give the performances argument if you wish and I can't really combat that but it's a results business when it's all said and done.
The Football League table shows 7 wins and 8 draws away last season. Our home record was 8 wins and 7 draws. So that's still 29 points away.
So to be clear in the season that we were so bloody awful away, we only got 4 points less than last season where we should be praising the manager for the away form. We lost as many games away that season as we did last season.
You only need an average away record when you have a good home record. What we have at the moment is a poor home record and an average away record.

Yes, it is a results business, but when both the results and performance presented to the customers that end up funding the club are as poor as they have been, the results and performances presented to a small subset of customers don't really matter a great deal.
I apologise. The grid I was using had Exeter down as a 2-1 victory to us rather than the 2-2 it ended up as. Most likely I tried to put Lewington's fumble out of my mind.

I think the away record is good all things considered. If anything the stats from other years back this up. The fact that we have achieved a better away record despite being left with a squad falling like a stone by Still than when he was actually here with a talented and settled squad says something. Wayne deserves the criticism he gets for his home record but he also deserves some praise for managing to pull out results quite often on the road, especially last season where we were between squads and missing our two most influential players for at least a third of it.
Adrian
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leewilson wrote:
Adrian wrote:
leewilson wrote:
Burnett got 31 points away from home last season. 8 wins and 7 draws. Only 2 points more than you state but every little counts. Also worth pointing out that with 6 away games left in 2012/13, we only had 16 points away from home. When Burnett came in, with the same team that had been struggling, he managed to achieve half of that tally in just 6 games to take us to 24 for that season.

Although Still's record in 08/09 and 09/10 is quite similar, let's bare in mind the quality of player and squad we had then as well. We think of them as our glory days where Benson was firing, we had superb wide men, sturdy defenders etc. The likes of Gain in the midfield. Yet Still couldn't conjure up more than an average away record. The year we got promoted, we were bloody awful away. I remember going to Darlo fearing we'd muck that up because we'd only won 4 away games all year up to that point.

Last season, we had a very transitional squad where we were inbetween Still's remains and Wayne building his team and we managed to top all previous football league away points tallies gained by us.

You can give the performances argument if you wish and I can't really combat that but it's a results business when it's all said and done.
The Football League table shows 7 wins and 8 draws away last season. Our home record was 8 wins and 7 draws. So that's still 29 points away.
So to be clear in the season that we were so bloody awful away, we only got 4 points less than last season where we should be praising the manager for the away form. We lost as many games away that season as we did last season.
You only need an average away record when you have a good home record. What we have at the moment is a poor home record and an average away record.

Yes, it is a results business, but when both the results and performance presented to the customers that end up funding the club are as poor as they have been, the results and performances presented to a small subset of customers don't really matter a great deal.
I apologise. The grid I was using had Exeter down as a 2-1 victory to us rather than the 2-2 it ended up as. Most likely I tried to put Lewington's fumble out of my mind.

I think the away record is good all things considered. If anything the stats from other years back this up. The fact that we have achieved a better away record despite being left with a squad falling like a stone by Still than when he was actually here with a talented and settled squad says something. Wayne deserves the criticism he gets for his home record but he also deserves some praise for managing to pull out results quite often on the road, especially last season where we were between squads and missing our two most influential players for at least a third of it.
Fair enough, credit where it's due. He has managed an away record that is marginally better than bloody awful.
Bored of the squad stuff from last year now. The squad was essentially what he chose it to be.
matt_drfc
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What would you guys class as a good home and away record? For me an average of 2 points per game at home and 1 PPG away would be good. Would be 69 points
nomis
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To be honest everyman and his dog could do a better job than the current plum in charge

Again just my opinion but hopefully the plum in charge will prove me wrong
SUSSEX DAGGER
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When all said and done at the season end this will look a very good result, make no mistake Accrington Stanley look the part and in my opinion are more then equal if not better then what we have seen so far this season.

There is a togetherness about them and they will go a long way this Season under Coleman.

A bit like us their weakness looks in the defence but look a real threat going forward.

Hope the Goalkeeper makes a Speedy recovery it looked a nasty injury they way he landed and the poor lad looked in a great deal of pain.
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