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Re: Adam Johnson

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:29 pm
by Paul from Barking
rechitski kinzhal wrote:I have twice explained exactly what a paedophile is - third time, it is someone who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children ( children who have not yet reached puberty, the excitement is because they have child-like bodies). It is generally regarded to refer to children up to age 11, but as an absolute maximum 13. In other words anyone who is attracted to an under-age girl who looks like a woman but is a child in the eyes of the law, maybe many things, but he is not a paedophile. Most of your arguments are accepted, but people are using a wholly inappropriate term just to make their outrage more effective. All my posts agree he has done wrong, but paedophile is the wrong term.
You clearly don't like being told you are wrong, but you are, and you are devaluing your otherwise good points by using an emotive, but incorrect term.
It is clear I won't convince you, so let's drop it, but please look up paedophiles on wiki.
My friend, I can assure you I know that I don't have a monopoly on being right - but at least I already know that. With respect who the ****** are you? The omnipotent one agaist whose perfection and correctness others are to judged? I don't have a problem with you or anyone else telling me that you disagree with me - you certainly do have the right to a difference of opinion in which you state you think having a shag with a girl once she's begun menstruation makes her a complete woman.... at 12 or 13 no less....

But let me tell you that most men (supported by the law), think that other men in their late 20s who interfere with or groom 15 year old girls are paedophiles, And whilst you are entitled to your view other people like me "toning down" the revulsion we feel about nonces wanting a blow job off of a kid, my view is that if you think 15 year old girls are fair game, you're a pervert who ought to be castrated.

28 year old extremely wealthy men rolling up and taking advantage of 15 year old girls who have a crush "for a sly, grubby ****** or blow-job" is the behaviour of a paedophile - whether said 15 year old bleeds or not!

If you don't want other men to think you're a nonce case paedo, just don't go near of by underage girls. In fact, men in their late 20s don[t go near teenagers of whatever age. And I for one am not going to allow you to diminish just how seriously the rest of us see this

Re: Adam Johnson

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:17 pm
by rechitski kinzhal
Sorry but you failed to comprehend a single word I wrote which rather negates any comments you wish to make.

Re: Adam Johnson

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:48 am
by Paul from Barking
Self centred, pious & arrogant arsehole wrote:Sorry but you failed to comprehend a single word I wrote which rather negates any comments you wish to make.
What's it like being a full of himself tosser?

I understand what you said: You want to diminish the seriousness of interfering with schoolgirls probably I'm beginning to conclude because it's something you'd quite like to do yourself.... But "steady on" you don't want to be called a nonce case if tempted into trying to get a blow job for a packet of pink pencils from a 15 year old 'vixen' who's "asking for it" by wearing a school uniform.... on her way back from, erm ... school...

I totally DISAGREE with your view that it isn't paedophilia. I will repeat something that obviously didn't go in because of your lack of comprehension: I respect your right to form and hold a different view from me and the other people who have posted - however because I don't want to try to excuse nor diminish the noncing of schoolgirls like you obviously do, I am not going to acquiesce to your demand that I 'tone down' the word(s) I choose to use to describe this behaviour to "kiss chase with uncle - let's keep this a secret".

When a 28 year old man REPEATEDLY meets up with a schoolgirl hoping for a shag, it is paedophilia - you might want to call it "our harmless little secret" but it is PAEDOPHILIA and people who follow this course of conduct are PAEDOPHILES. The role of adults in society is to protect young people - not take them up on and take advantage of an innocent crush and abuse their naivety and ultimately make them feel very bad about themselves for the following decade or more when they actually do realise that have been badly used and robbed of their innocence!

With respects, it is NOT "harmless fun", is it? Well, IS IT?!? Such behaviour is a manifest total lack of respect for vulnerable people and women in general. Would you really be happy if some 28 year old sleeze ball took an unhealthy interest in your 15 year old sister, niece, daughter? On the blow-job for a tee-shirt basis? "Kiss chase with uncle??"

Johnson ought to be castrated. Then other people - like you - [who dismiss it as "insignificant, harmless fun" (where the girl is obviously "asking for it" you'd like to have us believe)] might think "****** me - they'll cut my bollocks off if I do that.... so I think I better not do something I oughtn't".

By all means, disagree with me but please don't lord over it like no-one else can form and hold a different view from you, looking down your nose where everyone is 'wrong' because that is what Hitler did.... though he didn't interfere with kids

Re: Adam Johnson

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:03 pm
by Mike the Dagger
Six years in jail (I guess he'll be out in three).

Bye then.

FA Guide to players: http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/thef ... rsion.ashx

Child protection

Do not:
• Give out your contact details on social networking sites.
• Accept under 18’s as a ‘friend’ on your personal social media site, or engage in communications.
• Be left on your own with fans who are under 18.
• Drink alcohol before or during work or an appearance with U18’s.
• Make sexually suggestive comments or actions to under 18’s face to face or via text, phone, computer or social media – even in fun.
• Touch children inappropriately.
• Use foul or discriminatory language or make abusive gestures. • Give personal gifts to under 18’s.

If you have any questions, please speak to your club Designated Safeguarding Officer.

Re: Adam Johnson

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:56 pm
by Paul from Barking
Mike the Dagger wrote:Six years in jail (I guess he'll be out in three).

Bye then.

FA Guide to players: http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/thef ... rsion.ashx

Child protection

Do not:
• Give out your contact details on social networking sites.
• Accept under 18’s as a ‘friend’ on your personal social media site, or engage in communications.
• Be left on your own with fans who are under 18.
• Drink alcohol before or during work or an appearance with U18’s.
• Make sexually suggestive comments or actions to under 18’s face to face or via text, phone, computer or social media – even in fun.
• Touch children inappropriately.
• Use foul or discriminatory language or make abusive gestures. • Give personal gifts to under 18’s.

If you have any questions, please speak to your club Designated Safeguarding Officer.
Trying to set my "castrate him!" anger to one side and looking at what's come out today in with the sentencing; I think that 6 years with release after 3 and being on the sex offenders list for life is about right.

Hopefully the punishment will be a deterrent to others who want to keep a secret with a kid.

It wouldn't surprise me if he never plays professional again but he should have saved some of his £60 grand a week sso that the rest of us dont have to keep him when he gets out.

Teenagers and younger children are not "fair game to a mature man in his mid 20's or later - and anybody who wants to pursue this course of conduct will be reminded by what's been said in court today that there's likely to be some porridge at the end of it