Views from the Sieve

On top of what was a horrific day on the pitch, was also witness to a bunch of our 'fans', no more than 16 years old beating the s**t out of innocent Worthing fans at Dagenham East Station after the game. Never seen these morons before today but they knew what they were doing in that they all had face masks (some even had eye masks!) to shield their faces from cameras. One Worthing fan got hit with a knuckle duster and had claret pouring from his head. They all ran away like little girls as soon as the police turned up with batons but not before they had inflicted a lot of damage to their fans who were simply walking to the station. Can't blame the club, they've got enough to deal with on and off the pitch but no idea where this little a***holes came from. Some people were saying that they were West Ham but I don't know about that, none of them had colours, all wearing black. This is a very dark day in the history of this once great football club. Years of total stagnation and decline since Dave Andrews stepped down. By the way, when will everyone get real? There are no new owners. Thommo got an e-mail from a Saudi prince who promised us loads of money if we sent over our bank details......

As I drove away from the ground I saw a few congregating near the shops, as you say in black and some with face coverings. They were all giving it to the Worthing fans during the game who to be fair were giving it back as you'd expect. As you say all kids, I just thought it was the usual BS bravado - genuinely shocked to hear this.

It was.clear something was going to happen, with our level Police are no longer required to come to games and any copper there would have seen the intent of this kids, most I have never ever seen before bar Southend away. Who is the new head of stewarding/Safety after Tony Payne because they should have acted early and called the police that trouble was brewing. Yet more mismanagement of the club.

This is absolutely appalling. We need to see action on this.

Could see from the middle of the sieve there was going to be trouble. About 20 of them come down from the SD covering their faces, giving it to the away fans. Why didn’t the club phone for police backup there and then?

Was also a scrap in the bar at half time between two adults. One of them was there in an England kit. The kids running down into the bar at one point in the second half was when the police should have been called. I’m all for getting the next generation involved in the club, but these are just idiot kids who want to be seen as hard men.

I’m not sure whether the rumours of a stabbing/knuckle dusters being used at Dagenham East is true though. When I went to the station (before any of this happened) there was already a person at the bus stop having a serious looking seizure. So an ambulance was called for him. That might be where people have then thought something more sinister happened in that fight.

NBDag wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 10:22 am Was also a scrap in the bar at half time between two adults. One of them was there in an England kit. The kids running down into the bar at one point in the second half was when the police should have been called. I’m all for getting the next generation involved in the club, but these are just idiot kids who want to be seen as hard men.

I’m not sure whether the rumours of a stabbing/knuckle dusters being used at Dagenham East is true though. When I went to the station (before any of this happened) there was already a person at the bus stop having a serious looking seizure. So an ambulance was called for him. That might be where people have then thought something more sinister happened in that fight.

Yes - that's right. He was at the bus stop. At first I thought he had been attacked but I think you are right in that he was having a seizure (although someone was saying that he had drunk too much). The attack on the Worthing fans was inside the ticket hall of the station at the same time. There were quite a few Worthing fans with cut open heads/smashed up noses etc. There were baton wielding police chasing the children down the main road by this point too but there were too many kids running in all directions for them to do much. Everyone in the Pipe Major garden will have seen it going on. I didn't see anyone stabbed but I did talk to the Worthing bloke with blood streaming from his head and him and his mates all said that it was caused by a kid with a knuckle duster. I don't have any reason to disagree with them because the wounds were more than you would expect from a normal smack in the head. It was carnage.

Seems like the same lot that chased Worthing fan to away bar, after they chanted a comment about his girlfriend, and he gave an angry reaction back, throwing his beer on the floor. 20 or so chased after him I heard he locked himself in the toilet. Good job he did or he could have been beaten to a pulp.

So much for being a family club! We have our serious problems on the pitch but we have them off the pitch as well. I was brought to my first match at the Daggers aged 6 years by my dad. There is no way I would bring a 6 year old to watch a Daggers match to hear the vile language, obscenities and hateful comments from some sections of the crowd. Yes times have changed but I go to watch a variety of other clubs when Dagenham have a long away match and I don’t hear or see that sort of behaviour. The club is losing its identity on and off the pitch. A new broom is needed to sort out both issues in my opinion.

Corinthian wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:14 am So much for being a family club! We have our serious problems on the pitch but we have them off the pitch as well. I was brought to my first match at the Daggers aged 6 years by my dad. There is no way I would bring a 6 year old to watch a Daggers match to hear the vile language, obscenities and hateful comments from some sections of the crowd. Yes times have changed but I go to watch a variety of other clubs when Dagenham have a long away match and I don’t hear or see that sort of behaviour. The club is losing its identity on and off the pitch. A new broom is needed to sort out both issues in my opinion.

THIS.
And anyone who thinks there aren’t issues in all directions of the club is part of the problem not part of the solution.

Personally, I am horrified by what happened. I am led to believe no one was stabbed, but even so it does not excuse the behaviour nor the lack of observation by the safety officer in the ground to help prevent any issues escalating further.

I imagine too the club could have to pay extra policing costs as a result, which won’t help budgets.

I noticed at the Hemel game, that quite a few of there fans were in the bar underneath the TBS at half time, having walked across from the old family stand.
Why is that allowed to happen ?, I thought we needed segregation of fans in regards to the TBS.
If not, then why are we completely kicked out of the whole area, when they think the other mob are gonna bring more than 300.
Also, at Half Time on saturday, the club showed that they literally cannot organise a p*ss up in a bar, with there drink specific queues, & when you got finally to the bar, only to be served a plastic glass of white froth.
Brilliant.